prashantkh
06-23 05:06 PM
I agree, another argument in support is that if the situation of skilled legal immigrants does not improve many of them may consider other options like Canada, Australia, UK, NZ or even going back home. The employers most likely will outsource the jobs to other countries and once that happens that position is permanently gone from US. Hoewver, if an immigrant is working here the position is still here in US and can be taken by a citizen or a resident here if the immigrant workers leaves the job position.
PK
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
PK
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
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maag
05-30 10:02 AM
fundo...i am doing landing tomorrow
the application for PR says that enclosed photo is my photo or something like that...so i was wondering will they require photos.
I have used AP already and my I-94 states AOS
the application for PR says that enclosed photo is my photo or something like that...so i was wondering will they require photos.
I have used AP already and my I-94 states AOS
snathan
02-09 09:24 PM
Any one else....today?
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glus
05-24 09:07 AM
Please do so so they receive a variety of letters. I've done it. I e-mailed them and faxed them with my personal letter and with a letter based on Iv template. This is our time so please guys don't give up and fax your personal letter.
Here are the fax numbers for you:
Guys,
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Obama: 202-228-4260
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
G
Here are the fax numbers for you:
Guys,
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Obama: 202-228-4260
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
G
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gc_chahiye
07-08 12:45 PM
I think what has happened here is that DOS was frustrated with the pace in which USCIS was processing applications. So in order to push them to work faster, they made all categories current. This strategy worked and USCIS approved 60,000 visa in 15 0r 20 or however many days.
Then USCIS communicated with DOS that annual quota has been exhausted and thus DOS published the revised bulletin.
My 2 cents.
but why in 15 days? They had upto Sept 2007 to use up those numbers. So they worked overtime to make sure they dont have to accept new applications. Can they atleast admit to that?
We got screwed by them, and they claim (see the smug look on Condi's face) it was all a matter of course, nothing extraordinary.
Then USCIS communicated with DOS that annual quota has been exhausted and thus DOS published the revised bulletin.
My 2 cents.
but why in 15 days? They had upto Sept 2007 to use up those numbers. So they worked overtime to make sure they dont have to accept new applications. Can they atleast admit to that?
We got screwed by them, and they claim (see the smug look on Condi's face) it was all a matter of course, nothing extraordinary.
felix31
05-03 12:04 PM
wow,
what do you say, ordinary folks in EB3, without US Masters will not be able to proceed toward I-485 stage when visa is unavailable?
Hmmm, I will have my Masters, but I cannot work, as I cannot get h1 because of the 6th year limit (just like so many h4's). My hubby does not have US Masters, so he will wait in EB3 forever?
Can I slap my Masters to his name so he can proceed faster and I can finally get my EAD..?
what do you say, ordinary folks in EB3, without US Masters will not be able to proceed toward I-485 stage when visa is unavailable?
Hmmm, I will have my Masters, but I cannot work, as I cannot get h1 because of the 6th year limit (just like so many h4's). My hubby does not have US Masters, so he will wait in EB3 forever?
Can I slap my Masters to his name so he can proceed faster and I can finally get my EAD..?
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jkays94
06-26 02:02 PM
Unfortunately no community is safe from that irrational attacks of racism!
If you turn on your Hispanic TV networks , nowadays lots of Mexicans are
blaming Argentinian coach/ naturalized players on Football World Cup elimination!
Lots of them are demanding that non mexican born people are not allowed neither to coach nor to play for Mexico anymore!:eek:
Unbelivable!
Generalizations are dangerous, for your information it is not racism, the fear of foreigners is known as Xenophobia. Argentines are not that much different from persons from Mexico as to their ethnicity and racial composition. Secondly the views of a few angry callers should not get a country labelled for a social ill just as the minute men and some supremacist groups do not make the US predominantly racist. We're loosing the focus here, this is not about this country or that country its about the immigrant community and the challenges we collectively face.
If you turn on your Hispanic TV networks , nowadays lots of Mexicans are
blaming Argentinian coach/ naturalized players on Football World Cup elimination!
Lots of them are demanding that non mexican born people are not allowed neither to coach nor to play for Mexico anymore!:eek:
Unbelivable!
Generalizations are dangerous, for your information it is not racism, the fear of foreigners is known as Xenophobia. Argentines are not that much different from persons from Mexico as to their ethnicity and racial composition. Secondly the views of a few angry callers should not get a country labelled for a social ill just as the minute men and some supremacist groups do not make the US predominantly racist. We're loosing the focus here, this is not about this country or that country its about the immigrant community and the challenges we collectively face.
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delhiguy
07-07 01:53 PM
Yes the core problem is visa numbers. We have been fooled to believe for few days we all are safe and GC retrogression is over without even realizing someone was taking us for nice roller coaster ride.
Thanks for supporting my view.
We need media attentoion and legislature help to get the visa number increased,
Thanks for supporting my view.
We need media attentoion and legislature help to get the visa number increased,
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mirage
03-08 08:38 PM
This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
There are still lots of cases in eb3 from back that far.
Many of the eb3 245i cases; there dependents were outside USA. Once; they got greencards; then their dependents went for consular processing or are going for consular processing.
One of the cases I worked on ability to pay; person had adopted her nephew so that he could get greencard as dependent. You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are.
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
There are still lots of cases in eb3 from back that far.
Many of the eb3 245i cases; there dependents were outside USA. Once; they got greencards; then their dependents went for consular processing or are going for consular processing.
One of the cases I worked on ability to pay; person had adopted her nephew so that he could get greencard as dependent. You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are.
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abq_gc
08-18 03:29 PM
Abq_gc,
I agree with you on the fact that this is extremely frustrating. Believe me I can feel your pain. However all I am saying is, put your faith in the IV core for a more long term solution, where ALL EB categories benefit. This is a **NOT** a quick strike mission as we have seen for the past 4 years or more. The system is HORRIBLY broken. You cant try and put a bandaid on a foot long laceration. I am sure the idea of a quick fix appeals to a lot of people and I dont blame them either. Everyone on here wants to get their GC and get this mess over with.
I have full faith in the IV core and I know they are working on it as we speak... but Eb3_Nepa we cannot let our guard down against USCIS and I know very well that this is a long term mission.. but we can still do some quick strikes and weaken the enemy before the kill... or would u rather just wait another 3-4 years before the final kill ??
( playing too much of the RTS games because of the apparent frustration ..)
Anyways.. I am with the core and will always support whatever they do, because it will be good for the community as a whole.
All I am suggesting is to be on their heels.. just like my #$%^&* manager.. to get the work done
I agree with you on the fact that this is extremely frustrating. Believe me I can feel your pain. However all I am saying is, put your faith in the IV core for a more long term solution, where ALL EB categories benefit. This is a **NOT** a quick strike mission as we have seen for the past 4 years or more. The system is HORRIBLY broken. You cant try and put a bandaid on a foot long laceration. I am sure the idea of a quick fix appeals to a lot of people and I dont blame them either. Everyone on here wants to get their GC and get this mess over with.
I have full faith in the IV core and I know they are working on it as we speak... but Eb3_Nepa we cannot let our guard down against USCIS and I know very well that this is a long term mission.. but we can still do some quick strikes and weaken the enemy before the kill... or would u rather just wait another 3-4 years before the final kill ??
( playing too much of the RTS games because of the apparent frustration ..)
Anyways.. I am with the core and will always support whatever they do, because it will be good for the community as a whole.
All I am suggesting is to be on their heels.. just like my #$%^&* manager.. to get the work done
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factoryman
06-08 06:51 PM
probably Texas, that is where my I-140 was approved.
Cancelled 4 tickets and lost 1000 bucks. Was to fly on 6th. Never expected dates will move. MY PD Nov 2001 EB3 India.
Hoping to get receipts by 20th. Is that a fair assumption? Planning to re-book for 22nd.
Don't want to lose another dime on cancellations and re-bookings.
Advice and share your thoughts.
Cancelled 4 tickets and lost 1000 bucks. Was to fly on 6th. Never expected dates will move. MY PD Nov 2001 EB3 India.
Hoping to get receipts by 20th. Is that a fair assumption? Planning to re-book for 22nd.
Don't want to lose another dime on cancellations and re-bookings.
Advice and share your thoughts.
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ngopalak
07-20 11:21 AM
I will pledge $50 ..where is the link to contribute
Dear Members
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
Dear Members
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
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delhiguy79
07-31 09:52 AM
Anybody done recently Canada Landing and H1 Stamping together, please share experiences.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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gjoe
10-09 06:43 AM
It would be more effective if not effecient. You need not wait until the year end to issue visas, visas can be issued using a mathematical model which would allow old PD filers to get a visa ahead of others as soon as his case comes in and other criterias are fullfilled. Basically no one needs to wait for filing I485. People with old PD will get visa numbers first as soon as they enter the application.
You're kidding me...How is your suggestion more efficient..????
So they should keep sorting and moving visa numbers from one application to another based on PD.??
if thats the case they would have to wait to give GC on the very last day of the year...
You're kidding me...How is your suggestion more efficient..????
So they should keep sorting and moving visa numbers from one application to another based on PD.??
if thats the case they would have to wait to give GC on the very last day of the year...
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bheemi
06-21 09:18 AM
I would request IV core team to concentrate on new bill or some way for relief to skilledworkers like us. I dont think waiting until end of July is good option here. It is certain that CIR is not going to be there for this year..whole US world is thinking of same.
Further request to IV core team to work on some thing different for relief for skilled workers
Further request to IV core team to work on some thing different for relief for skilled workers
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Munna Bhai
07-08 02:25 PM
Found this from Chinese website:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/22918275.html
This small group did wonderful job, convey my thanks. This should be a morale booster for everyone of us.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/22918275.html
This small group did wonderful job, convey my thanks. This should be a morale booster for everyone of us.
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jayen
08-27 03:47 PM
Applications sent to Nebraska on Jul 11th; received on Jul 12th
PD - Sep 2005 under EB3
No receipts or checks cashed yet.
PD - Sep 2005 under EB3
No receipts or checks cashed yet.
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Vsach
07-05 05:31 PM
Dear All,
How about we all show up at DC coming Monday! What would be the most efficient and quickest process in getting everybody involved?:
Regards
VS
How about we all show up at DC coming Monday! What would be the most efficient and quickest process in getting everybody involved?:
Regards
VS
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anilsal
12-11 08:00 AM
Guys even H1B increases are not that bad. A lot of our spouses could get jobs on h1b if it was open just now. Ultimately isint that what we want? Both husband and wife working?
I know that it could have a possible effect on the EB but I think a LOT of our spouses could work if the H1B quota was available. I know atleast 2-3 such friends whose wives can easily get jobs if the H1B was open.
Provided you bypass those apps that consulting companies line up at the start of the year. This is what Microsoft/Intel etc are trying to counter. They are not getting enough of the H1Bs themselves.
I know that it could have a possible effect on the EB but I think a LOT of our spouses could work if the H1B quota was available. I know atleast 2-3 such friends whose wives can easily get jobs if the H1B was open.
Provided you bypass those apps that consulting companies line up at the start of the year. This is what Microsoft/Intel etc are trying to counter. They are not getting enough of the H1Bs themselves.
Lasantha
02-05 10:20 AM
Hi Gene,
The main two applications you need to file is 1) PR card 2) SIN card.
No, you cannot file for the PR card online and as far as I know same goes for the SIN card.
1) The officer will take down your information for the PR card during the landing process. The picture you sent them will be used for this and no need to take new pictures. However you need to give them a Canadian address for them to send you the PR card. They will not accept a US address and no PO boxes. So I suggest that you give a friend's or relatives's address if you plan to return to the US after landing. After your friend receives the PR card he can mail it to you in the US.
2) During the landing procedure you will receive a packet of documents and it will have information on how to apply for your SIN card. All you need to do is go to one of their offices on a weekday during working hours with your landing papers and fill a form. There too you need to provide a Canadian address.
In addition to these you must bring with you a list of goods you are bringing with you and a list of goods that will arrive later. This is to be submitted to Canadian customs. Then you must bring bankstatements etc proving that you have the required amount of funds.
When I landed I had not applied for AOS. So I am not sure what kind of effect the Canadian PR will have when you return to the US. Hope someone who landed after filing 485 would throw some light on that.
You can return whenver you wish after landing. But you will need some time to file for your SIN card. I landed on a Friday afternoon and came back the following Monday. Why not make a mini vacation of it? I landed in Toronto and it's a great city.
Hope this helps.
What documents, applications need to be filled out after we land in Canada; in-terms of applying for the Resident Card, Social Insurance Number etc. I don't even know what else needs to be filled out.
Can we fill these applications on-line or must be fill them out only after we have landed physically in Canada?
After landing, how long before we can come back to the USA for resuming our job?
Thanks Lasantha.
The main two applications you need to file is 1) PR card 2) SIN card.
No, you cannot file for the PR card online and as far as I know same goes for the SIN card.
1) The officer will take down your information for the PR card during the landing process. The picture you sent them will be used for this and no need to take new pictures. However you need to give them a Canadian address for them to send you the PR card. They will not accept a US address and no PO boxes. So I suggest that you give a friend's or relatives's address if you plan to return to the US after landing. After your friend receives the PR card he can mail it to you in the US.
2) During the landing procedure you will receive a packet of documents and it will have information on how to apply for your SIN card. All you need to do is go to one of their offices on a weekday during working hours with your landing papers and fill a form. There too you need to provide a Canadian address.
In addition to these you must bring with you a list of goods you are bringing with you and a list of goods that will arrive later. This is to be submitted to Canadian customs. Then you must bring bankstatements etc proving that you have the required amount of funds.
When I landed I had not applied for AOS. So I am not sure what kind of effect the Canadian PR will have when you return to the US. Hope someone who landed after filing 485 would throw some light on that.
You can return whenver you wish after landing. But you will need some time to file for your SIN card. I landed on a Friday afternoon and came back the following Monday. Why not make a mini vacation of it? I landed in Toronto and it's a great city.
Hope this helps.
What documents, applications need to be filled out after we land in Canada; in-terms of applying for the Resident Card, Social Insurance Number etc. I don't even know what else needs to be filled out.
Can we fill these applications on-line or must be fill them out only after we have landed physically in Canada?
After landing, how long before we can come back to the USA for resuming our job?
Thanks Lasantha.
simple1
05-01 03:55 PM
FOIA may be. Btw can you add a poll to this thread to see forum support?
Done, added poll.
Done, added poll.
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