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  • nixstor
    07-03 09:24 PM
    I am trying an outline for sending to media + lawmakers + ...

    The following is a very rough draft without reading some of the letters posted in the thread. I will read the posts tomorrow and polish it by tomorrow evening. I will need everyone's input since I don't know all the issues.

    What happened

    USCIS announced at the time the forms were due.
    Applicants started filling forms 2-3 weeks before July 2.
    Applicants changed their schedules to submit forms.


    Advantages of EAD + AP
    Don't know all!

    Travel without visa -> saves Embassy overhead.
    Spouse can work.
    Can switch job.

    Why does it hurt

    Medical will not be valid after 1 year.
    Fees more then doubling
    Name checking (which can take 1+ year) done in parallel with waiting for GC #.
    Load balancing for USCIS.
    USCIS which is supported 90% by application fee needs to care for applicants.
    Very little chance of legislative relief for a looong time.


    Excellent,

    I am planning to come up with a format for calling key senators and congress men on Thursday morning. Lets do this. Mean while please keep digging and blogging.





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  • krish2005
    01-16 05:16 PM
    Please read this article.

    The Insightful Immigration Blog – Commentaries on Immigration Policy, Cases and Trends: NEW USCIS MEMO ON EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP FOR H-1B PETITIONS: IS IT A WAY TO KEEP CERTAIN WORKERS OUT? (http://cyrusmehta.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-uscis-memo-on-employer-employee.html)

    I feel IV can join hands with AILA on this to help us in this situation.

    Any new renewals or new H1 filings are bound to be denied unless its a direct employer vs employee relationship. Third party placement indications are bound to be targeted for denial!

    We are literaly doomed. Given the slugglishness of the GC process this is bound to cripple us down.

    I am feeling sad for those H1B guys who were deported out of Newark thanks to these crooked laws. The laws may be right in their perspective, but they do not understand the havoc it would have created in the lives of those who felt the impact.

    I wish and pray for the good of all and those GC/H1B aspirants during these troubled times now and up ahead.





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  • Legal
    07-23 12:28 PM
    I am estimating around 75K EB2 AOS approvals this year. Please check my analysis here. The analysis is based on statistics, testimonies, and spill over from FB to EB as estimated by Ron Gother. The analysis was couple of months old. I believe it still stands.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422

    Apart from total number of EB2 visas this year, one thing that is crucial here is how many visas are already used up. And thus how many visas are left for this year.

    In the USCIS testimony, it was stated that they already used up 65% of the "target" in 5 months. Assuming, they used up atleast 30% more in next 5 months, there is only 5% to 10% of visas left over from their "target" number of visas. Did their "target" included spill over? No one knows. Knowing that will put us in better position to estimate the PD progress.

    Though the EB2 moved until June 2006, I am hoping that most of the people before 2005 March should get approved. In that case, even if it retrogresses, it will fall back to March 2005. Once we reach March 2005, we have all statistics from DOL. So, would be easier to estimate.


    There are 20 K EB visas left from the regular EB category for this fiscal and there are minimum of 20k FB visas which spill over for EB.

    Thus conservative estimate 40k visas are available for use before Sep 30th. Liberal estimate the numbers could be higher.

    More likley to happen is most EB-2 upto Dec 2005 getting approved, many in early 2006 getting approved.





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  • hopefulgc
    05-29 09:25 AM
    Seems like Mr. charles is full of shit. He is sounding "informed" but i don't think they know what the real numbers are....YET. It showed inadvertently, when he said "based on the Eb3 demand for the rest of the year". Hello.. EB3 is unavailable.

    I mean what do you expect him to do when you corner him and start asking him questions. He is gonna have to throw numbers out there to make himself look informed and intelligent and on top of his game.

    The sad part is he is going to now set the VBs as he stated here to validate his erroneous statements.


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  • GCA
    08-17 01:47 PM
    Collin Powell incident is America's problem. Even after the civil rights movement and equality to Blacks, they are still having discrimination. Just ask Black people in America and how they feel in their daily life.

    So according to you by coming to America we should forget India because you will call us traitor? Have you heard how Jews in America are so strong and care for Israel even after becoming US citizens?

    The fact is Indians are responsible for their own problems and greencard woes. They want to live in this sorry state and blame everyone else around them except themselves. They do not have any pride in their roots and thus flee their own country. They do not come to this country for betterment of their skills, education and experience but because they want to flee the country. There maybe exceptions but this is what I have seen in Indians who are on H1B or who have become US Citizens.

    There could be several reasons for people coming here. But most and primary reason is making some quick money and returning back. And a good portion of that money goes back to our motherland to prosper. People didn't flee the country. They flew out of the country because their skills are valued more elsewhere - its simple demand supply economics that made/makes our skills more valued outside - I don't want to eloborate more and hurt someone which definitely wasn't the intention.

    IF we are after the GC, its purely for the mobility and assurity it provides and not for the path to citizenship. Though most of them want to return back, we still want the GC so we call the shots and not the INS. Long story short, no one is a traitor. They are just common 'smart' people - yah, they are common from the land we come from.





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 02:11 PM
    IV works in the interests of both EB2 and EB3 as amitjoey mentioned. we cannot create a Bill to get relief for only one category.
    There already exists an very small, unsuccesful org for just EB3 that core is aware of, and they consider IV as their competitors because
    1. They do not understand and know nothing of how IV works (just like plainspeak)
    2. They want to get donations and members away from IV and make money

    These statements give her away. This is what they do try to pressurize IV to do their agenda. Enough said. Ignore the sales agent. They are trying to incite a fight between EB2 and EB3 just to split IV.

    The other posts were just a diversion to show you are not completely rogue. You just have a single agenda - to promote your organization.
    Wow can one person with an idea make such a difference or is IV an organiation with such a deep sense of hostility that they see enemies everywhere

    I am a simple person who does my job and helps people when i can and yes like every human i have ideas and hopes. Now when i get an idea about an invention i would go to the patents forum and when i get and idea about say investing i would go to an investing forum. Now when i got an idea related to immigration i have come to the forum which stands like a beacon for all immigration community or are you incapable of recognising the fact that that IV (and that means all you guys in in) is big hugh and was doing the right thing when no one else was.
    Even now i do not think what IV is doing is wrong. I have differences with the outcome of their approach becasue i feel that this approach wil be bad for EB3. Out of all the people commenting out here there has been NOT even ONE person who has tried to understand the reason for why i feel EB3 is going to get in bad shape. Not one has tried to understand what i have been trying to say that NO big or small immigration bill will pass anytime soon and this will lead to EB2 retrogration which will be going against the statement which all you people like to say that is that EB2wil become current and EB3 will get better later so do not rock the boat
    And yes i choose not to donate and participate because on principle

    There already exists an very small, unsuccesful org for just EB3 that core is aware of, and they consider IV as their competitors because
    And yes i am sure there are many such organizations which may have been started as competition toIV and are not succesfull. Now if i was a fool i would go down the same path but i am not and i have realized that IV is the only vehcial of change. Now when IV tends to speak of EB retrogression they are sepaking on my behalf and when they are doing something on my behalf and if i feel what ever is being done is being determintal to my GC case am i not supposed to even ask IV.

    So let me get this straight you are using my GC case as a reference in your charter and i have no say in what you do with my case. I wish i had a lawyer to back me up on this. Just Kidding!

    1. They do not understand and know nothing of how IV works (just like plainspeak)
    2. They want to get donations and members away from IV and make money
    Hey keep your money to yourselves i do not want your money. Hey if things pan out i might even start contributing to IV.

    These statements give her away. This is what they do try to pressurize IV
    You guys are so pathetic and lame. Do you think anyone needs a plan to scare you guys. All i did was start and email thread which had nothing scary, no abuse, no threats only a request for discussion and also and understanding that things may not work out and with all this 3/4th of you guys are running around scared like headless chickens and using abuse and threat.

    So take my word for it. You guys are a bunch of scardy cats. I am surprised how you do lobyying. Must be some realy tough guys and gals in the core team otherwise you guys would have destroyed IV by now. Please do not try to get into core and destroy it, they are doing a good job without you knee jerk reactionist spoiling it for them

    The other posts were just a diversion to show you are not completely rogue. You just have a single agenda - to promote your organization

    Do you think some one would go to all this length of providing helpful posts and do all the drege work all to just convince you. Please do not think so high about yourselves. As i said before to scare you all i need to do is write one post and that is not my strength that is you guys weakness whcih is on display here.
    And what single agenda and organization are you talking about as far as i am comcerned there is only one organzation for EB Retrogression relief and that is IV
    All my other posts are genuine and they have been written because in some cases i genuenly fell the need to speak up seeing how you guys shoot down anything rElated to EB3 without seing the merits and pros and cons of it and in some cases i felt i could share info with someone who was looking for some answers whcih should have been answered by you guys but all of you were busy abusing my other posts. Actually i takethat back there were some other people from iV who repliesd back so sorry about that.

    Why is it so hard to understand that this is a genuine person with a genuine query not some anti imigrant or competitor to IV. You guys are like the CID in Mash 4077 (google that if you want calrification) who see enemies of the country everywhere and are paraniod about everyone.



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  • eb3_nepa
    06-26 01:29 PM
    Logiclife,

    All I am saying is, the DOS or USCIS can be unpredictible at times. I know TECHNICALLY there is NO way the July bulletin can retrogress IN JULY. However I would NOT be surprised if that happens. Coz this suddenly creates a FLOOD of Ead applications and AP applications not to mention Finger printing.





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  • InTheMoment
    09-14 09:16 PM
    It is important to know the numbers of traditional labors filed in year 2005 before PERM was implemented on March 28, 2005. Does anybody have hard numbers on these ?

    This is a very relevant piece of info, as tons were filed because PERM was a new animal and no one wanted to play around with it before they understood it.



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  • vine93
    09-23 05:12 PM
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    This idea makes much sense and I am for it.
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  • gcfriend65
    06-28 10:19 AM
    Demand for Visa numbers is very high from India. Even, China does not need that much. Thats why EB-2 last month China was Jan. 2006. So, it is only India. Rest of World (ROW) is very miniscule, except our previous Masters 'GREAT Britain' where all the 'babus' come from under EB-1.

    Can somebody please provide some information interms of country quota? This 40000 can be used for any country? Or if India and China used their quota and still visa's left, next visa bulletin may show retrogession for India and China and current for other countries?



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  • crazyghoda
    05-29 01:25 PM
    software engineers now coming to US to Religious workers..

    Maybe the temples and other places of worship need software to manage the huge donations all of us are making to God to make the dates move. :D

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  • gomirage
    06-17 07:22 PM
    Outsourcing is bad for not only for US citizens but also for future H1bs and GC aspirants also.
    Still all the jobs cannot be outsourced. Also if that would have been the case I would have been out of job. But My salary was increasing steadily and in this tough economy also I was able to get a new job with 20% rise in pay after I lost job . There are many companies in USA who are only hiring USA citizens and discouraging outsourcing. Wherever I was working I discouraged those companies from outsourcing but encouraged them to hire h1bs ,GC holders or US citizens. Many start up companies in California cannot afford to do outsourcing because of tight release schedules.

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  • h1techSlave
    12-09 10:14 AM
    " members are more interested in how to get their maid to US, which airline to fly etc etc .." and whether they should purchase a home or not. Members spend all their time in heated arguments for and against purchasing a home. pinto, are you familiar with any such members in this forum? ;););)


    Thanks h1b ...thanks everyone else for the overwhelming support. actually it seems that without core leadership / directions ..IV is fast becoming just like a chat forum or as Indian ambassador would have put -- a headless chicken.
    members are more interested in how to get their maid to US, which airline to fly etc etc ..
    I guess time for rest of us to lay back ...and see what fate has in store without worrying much :D





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  • srkamath
    07-26 11:24 AM
    It appears FB spillover is factored into EB quota in Sep bulletin every year.

    The FB spillovers are distributed @ 28.6% to EB1,2,3, just like the 140k base.
    Therefore if there are any FB spillovers left EB3 must not be "U".

    However, EB3 is completely "U"
    Therefore FB numbers have already been factored in the DOS calculations. How exactly? I don't know.

    Unused 28.6% FB spill from EB1 will of course spill over into EB2 IN/CH.

    vdlrao's estimates of ~30k FB numbers spilling over are for all EBs, there will be at most only ~ 20k FB spillovers into EB2, as EB3 has already consumed its portion.



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  • actaccord
    01-13 08:31 PM
    at least one person could respond in more civilized and matured way. These kind of response will give good impression about a forum.

    Guys please keep your comments in more civilized way to keep/gain good public image of the forum.

    I do read most of the threads in this forum (whenever I feel free) i feel some of members who are donors/senior members feel they can get to fight (in abusive way) with any one on any thread no matter whether it spoils the image of forum or their response adds no value to the thread. These kind of attitude can be expected from new members as they may have wrong intentions (or to just vent their frustrations) to join in a forum. But people who are very senior and donors responding in uncivilized manner is not good for them as well as the forum.

    I don't see anything wrong PlainSpeak's suggestion but I can't comment on if her suggestion is workable or not. But we can just explain what is right or wrong instead of getting into fight mode.

    I would like to see some kind of administration control (removing the response, warning the members) on those threads with abusive/uncivilized response. I know it is tedious job but once we have senior/donors under civilized conversation controlling new members will be of easier as seniors/donors can report those unwanted conversations.

    It would be great place to share ideas (good, bad, right, wrong) if those uncivilized response is reduced. The lesser the uncivilized response more the people willing to join hands.

    I wanted to join hands but those uncivilized comments keeping me away from participating. I do have friends who joined after me referring felt the same, some even stopped visiting this forum after seeing uncivilized fightings.

    There are great people like amitjoey who convey the message in more civilized way (as far as I have seen) and help others (its not easy to post 1100+ posts....). I am new to this country and have very less experience and knowledge to share. But I hope one day I can guide/help some people like amitjoey.

    Reason for me to share my thought is amitjoey, otherwise I would have just gone through the thread and felt bad about this forum for uncivilized comments. I am not into any group yet (Eb2/3) as my comp is not going to sponsor gc as per new policy, so I don't belong to any group (or we can say group who's gc never filed). When I read PlainSpeak's comment I thought she was right and after reading amitjoey's comment I learned another view for this issue. After reading those two comments I understand the issue and why IV took different direction or direction different from PlainSpeak's. But when I continued reading this thread I felt why some educated people with good intentions have bad thoughts and respond to others in uncivilized way. In the whole thread only two comments make's sense to me rest doesn't belong/fit to this forum.

    Lets get more new members and be civilized to gain confident which will gain more strength to the forum.


    Do not overanalyze any bill- All these bills are mere drafts until they come on floor for debate, and even after that they go thru amendments, rewriting, and the final bill comes out in most cases to be very different from the original. Even after the bill is passed in both houses, the committees that are responsible in reconciling the bill will tweak it and fine tune it.
    This means that even good provisions can be deleted at any time during the debate, thru an amendment lobbied by the antis- if the EB Community is not vigilant.
    To give you an insight: In Dec 2005, there was a line item in a bill that would have recaptured visas for EB applicants, the bill was passed – and at the last minute this provision was deleted.


    IF you read through the provisions and the paper that IV created for lobby days in July 2010- Each one of the provisions and the underlying text that IV is asking for has been written with clear understanding of the issues EB applicants face- It is written in a way that if incorporated in any of the bills as an amendment- will give fair and balanced numbers to all categories -EB3, EB2.

    So, regardless of which bill (Immigrant friendly) comes on the floor- IV will lobby to have this package included as an amendment. Or IV will lobby to get this inserted into the main bill.

    So- Please, do not get worked up about EB3 vs EB2. OR India vs China vs World

    The real work is to be vigilant about what bill has the chance to come on the floor and then lobby to get the amendments included.

    There are bigger issues for our community- Not one immigrant friendly bill has come up for debate in the last 4 years (exception is the dream act). And here the IV Community is debating and fighting about provisions about one of 100 bills that might never see a chance on the floor.

    The big battle is to advocate and lobby at grassroots to get a bill to come on the floor- persuade lawmakers to be cosponsors for a bill that will help us, and then when the bill is up for debate, we can talk about what we should include as amendments or insert in the main bill to make it fair for everybody.



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  • ita
    03-29 10:11 PM
    (Though I would also like to see this forum used only for immigration matters..)
    Thought of adding in few more points..

    So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:

    One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
    One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
    One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
    One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
    one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
    All of them state sponsored.

    (On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
    It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
    Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)

    Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.

    All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.

    For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
    Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.



    I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.





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  • mheggade
    02-14 12:24 PM
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    BharatPremi
    07-26 03:58 PM
    India of course. I am here for the same reason that you are - India sucks.

    At least India gave you the oppertunity to develop "High Skill" which can be accepted by USA and so you are here. If India might not have given you that oppertunity then Would it be able for you to rant on this board?





    gdilla
    05-10 03:42 AM
    Once again, eb2waiter, a baseless statement in "Canada is not a land of opportunity". No one owes you a living. You have to work for it. If you're such a good IT worker, become a consultant or open up your own business doing so. You can't expect someone to hand you a job. Like someone else stated, if your skills are in demand and a good communicator, you'll be fine.

    And yes, I had a US job offer before arriving here.

    And if you're already here as a student, well, I can't think of a better way to research the job market from within - job fairs, colleagues, etc.

    Also, I don't see your point - if you're an immigrant student in Canada, there is no issue of foreign credentials. Any professional distinction earned in Canada lands you on the same footing as any citizen. So again, please stop spreading bad information.


    Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
    There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.

    There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D

    For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
    It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.

    Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.

    I wont post on this thread again :)

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