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dixie
11-18 03:51 AM
I think there are plenty of people who always planned to go back .. the GC /USC was just a career advancement tool for these people. In fact, a survey of US returnees to India after 2000 shows that the majority (around 60%) were USCs/ GC holders, which is clearly an indication that the relocation was by choice rather than any immigration issues.
There are many factors which make the adjustment/re-starting issues bearable : In many cases, the country you will go back to will be a much improved place from the one you left.Besides, many of us immigrated not because we were desperate to get out of our home country; but rather because at that particular point in our careers going abroad was the best way forward. After close to decade's worth of experience in USA, many find that the best way forward now is to go back to your home country .. thats becoming more and more common with globalization. And finally, many of us have family issues like taking care of aged parents which either makes the re-location inevitable or in some cases may coincide with career goals.
Personally, i think returning to one's home country solely because of retrogression is not advisable and has the potential to cause lots of frustration and disappointment.
I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
There are many factors which make the adjustment/re-starting issues bearable : In many cases, the country you will go back to will be a much improved place from the one you left.Besides, many of us immigrated not because we were desperate to get out of our home country; but rather because at that particular point in our careers going abroad was the best way forward. After close to decade's worth of experience in USA, many find that the best way forward now is to go back to your home country .. thats becoming more and more common with globalization. And finally, many of us have family issues like taking care of aged parents which either makes the re-location inevitable or in some cases may coincide with career goals.
Personally, i think returning to one's home country solely because of retrogression is not advisable and has the potential to cause lots of frustration and disappointment.
I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
caforum2
10-16 10:03 AM
I thought i wouldn't marry till i get ma GC coz i didn't wanna gal to come n rot here without a job being on H4.
but now i've gotten so freakin old waitin for the GC n still waitin that i might not get a gal to marry.:eek: :eek:
If you marry a girl after geting greencard you have to wait 5 years to bring her to US. So better yet, marry after you get citizenship :D which might be when you are ready to collect your social security
but now i've gotten so freakin old waitin for the GC n still waitin that i might not get a gal to marry.:eek: :eek:
If you marry a girl after geting greencard you have to wait 5 years to bring her to US. So better yet, marry after you get citizenship :D which might be when you are ready to collect your social security
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rajuram
05-27 12:20 AM
Time to wake up and push this bill. IV should motivate members to write to law makers. Also have a funding drive.
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admin
04-03 11:22 AM
bheemi,
I am shocked at your statement after seeing such an organized effort from IV. The only conclusion that I could make is - you are sympathetic to the 'anti-immigrant sentiments' and are out here to create trouble.
Anyways, instead of criticizing someone, please let us know what you have done for the cause.
All,
These are highly stressful times and I am sure people did not mean to create trouble when they wrote such message but rather they were merely venting their frustrations.
We just need to make sure that we're able to convert this energy into some that is positive and useful. Again no offense meant to anyone and no offense taken.
I am shocked at your statement after seeing such an organized effort from IV. The only conclusion that I could make is - you are sympathetic to the 'anti-immigrant sentiments' and are out here to create trouble.
Anyways, instead of criticizing someone, please let us know what you have done for the cause.
All,
These are highly stressful times and I am sure people did not mean to create trouble when they wrote such message but rather they were merely venting their frustrations.
We just need to make sure that we're able to convert this energy into some that is positive and useful. Again no offense meant to anyone and no offense taken.
vinodmp
02-11 09:52 PM
digging through my old documents now.
I was mistaken reading the labor cert application. It did say "we accept BS + 5 years progressive experience".
I am 3 year Eng diploma + 1 year Eng post Diploma + 10 year exp in India + 5year Exp in US before filing Labor Cert .
I do have a copy of the Educational evaluation used by my old attorney which says US master equivalent.
As one member pointed out , there is a possibility that my original employer might have sent a letter saying Labor cert has mistakes but I have no way to confirm that . Or it could that the Officer is just trying to find any small thing to make the case deny.
I am digging all my old docs to give it to my attorney and see what he is going to day .
Thanks for all the support folks .
-vinod
I was mistaken reading the labor cert application. It did say "we accept BS + 5 years progressive experience".
I am 3 year Eng diploma + 1 year Eng post Diploma + 10 year exp in India + 5year Exp in US before filing Labor Cert .
I do have a copy of the Educational evaluation used by my old attorney which says US master equivalent.
As one member pointed out , there is a possibility that my original employer might have sent a letter saying Labor cert has mistakes but I have no way to confirm that . Or it could that the Officer is just trying to find any small thing to make the case deny.
I am digging all my old docs to give it to my attorney and see what he is going to day .
Thanks for all the support folks .
-vinod
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grupak
12-17 02:12 PM
With all due respect, the probelem I have with volunteers is that I don't think amtures can pull a job this big, you've got to have profesionals, somethng like a compain maneger.
I admire the courage of your guys, and think the goal is fantastic. But the way it goes, I don't see how it can be achieved.
I've learned a great deal about immigration from the forum here. I very much appreciate it. I try to give back by answering questions others may have. I think IV has been doing a great job serving as that capacity.
But you guys want do something bigger. Well, you have faith in it, I don't, at least not now, neither many others. Maybe that is why you are still asking for money and volunteers.
IV was started by a few dedicated members, it has grown since then. It will continue to grow. As it grows and get more funding, IV can hire someone professional to do the things you say. However, you have to start somewhere. Can't expect to have paid professional managers first, before we even have the funding, and then look for funding to do the things it does.
And IV is more than a website. We want to build a strong grass roots movement by strengthening the state chapters. There is more than just lobbying that needs to be done.
As I was reading the posts, I was just thinking to myself that it will involve a lot of work to collect the checks, keep a record (even non-profits must maintain it for IRS I suppose) and deposit it. Most people in IV now are working professionals with a day job. The current system of electronic payment is best for now, in my opinion.
I admire the courage of your guys, and think the goal is fantastic. But the way it goes, I don't see how it can be achieved.
I've learned a great deal about immigration from the forum here. I very much appreciate it. I try to give back by answering questions others may have. I think IV has been doing a great job serving as that capacity.
But you guys want do something bigger. Well, you have faith in it, I don't, at least not now, neither many others. Maybe that is why you are still asking for money and volunteers.
IV was started by a few dedicated members, it has grown since then. It will continue to grow. As it grows and get more funding, IV can hire someone professional to do the things you say. However, you have to start somewhere. Can't expect to have paid professional managers first, before we even have the funding, and then look for funding to do the things it does.
And IV is more than a website. We want to build a strong grass roots movement by strengthening the state chapters. There is more than just lobbying that needs to be done.
As I was reading the posts, I was just thinking to myself that it will involve a lot of work to collect the checks, keep a record (even non-profits must maintain it for IRS I suppose) and deposit it. Most people in IV now are working professionals with a day job. The current system of electronic payment is best for now, in my opinion.
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gc_on_demand
06-12 01:01 PM
Most of the folks are missing the point about the prior years approval numbers. All the approvals from 2004 - 2008 are padded with huge visa number from FB spillover and the recapture provision of AC21. From this year onwards we have to live with the usual ~3K per country per category limit. This is the reason why Charles Oppenheim is predicting decade long wait for EB2 I/C and all EB3's. We continue to beat down Oppenheim claim with our own numbers, but he knows more about visa numbers than any one of us.
Let us dream about recapture being a panacea to the problem. There is only limited amount of visa's to be recaptured (~180K) even with that not all categories can become current. Also during that last recapture debates there where lots of suggestions to stagger the usage of recaptured visa over a long time frame like 5 yrs. Even with recapture, the date movement will not be rapid, but it will be remarkably better than what it is now.
Yeah you are right. 180k visas will clean almost will 2006 end but then those 2007 and 2008 onwards has to live with 3k apps. removing counrty cap along with Recapture helps all ..
Let us dream about recapture being a panacea to the problem. There is only limited amount of visa's to be recaptured (~180K) even with that not all categories can become current. Also during that last recapture debates there where lots of suggestions to stagger the usage of recaptured visa over a long time frame like 5 yrs. Even with recapture, the date movement will not be rapid, but it will be remarkably better than what it is now.
Yeah you are right. 180k visas will clean almost will 2006 end but then those 2007 and 2008 onwards has to live with 3k apps. removing counrty cap along with Recapture helps all ..
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PavanV
08-18 05:10 PM
This my personal take on it, I want a GC, i have been in this country for the past 8 years, landed in 2001 finished my masters and have been employed since then. Life is good here, well thats what i think, sometimes better than home (i still call, because i was born there), i am not dissatisfied with the money i am making, although i think i get underpaid (i work in southern calif as permanent employee).
I came to this country so that i can survive in life, i.e. too much competition in India which means you need to really work hard to keep up with the competition (i am really lazy :D) , now with the fight for GC and all, added with the daily stress and chores, i am really thinking is the effort worth the reward, i keep getting this thoughts, i mean i am the only one with the thought that the effort/patience/sacrifice is not equal to the result ?.
I really wonder if all this is worth it, the stress is just too much. Reading other's stories makes me laud their patience, i know my struggle has just started, kudos to others who are still holding on :)
I came to this country so that i can survive in life, i.e. too much competition in India which means you need to really work hard to keep up with the competition (i am really lazy :D) , now with the fight for GC and all, added with the daily stress and chores, i am really thinking is the effort worth the reward, i keep getting this thoughts, i mean i am the only one with the thought that the effort/patience/sacrifice is not equal to the result ?.
I really wonder if all this is worth it, the stress is just too much. Reading other's stories makes me laud their patience, i know my struggle has just started, kudos to others who are still holding on :)
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WithoutGCAmigo
06-18 11:07 AM
If my priority date is retrogressed at the time of processing my EAD and AP, will USCIS keep the EAD and AP on hold? Or will they process EAD and AP and hold the I485?
The reason the processing dates matter is because by the time USCIS gets to process our I765 and I131 the dates would have retrogressed and then what happens is a million dollar ?
The reason the processing dates matter is because by the time USCIS gets to process our I765 and I131 the dates would have retrogressed and then what happens is a million dollar ?
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vasa
07-11 11:41 AM
I dont think we need to waste our time about such non competent organizations , let them take the credit , it just shows that this was a great idea. Looking at their website it does look like they have some good contacts .
I think immigration voice should write them a formal letter and ask them to publicise this to their "contacts" ..
If they got themselves into this picture well,lets put them to work!
I think immigration voice should write them a formal letter and ask them to publicise this to their "contacts" ..
If they got themselves into this picture well,lets put them to work!
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chapper
10-23 09:34 PM
Congrats! - I'm happy for you. Thanks for sharing.
Did you get any LUD between I485 application and approval.
Did you get any LUD between I485 application and approval.
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07-19 04:28 PM
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04-09 05:58 PM
Alisa
Best post so far on this thread :D
I will never go back. I'll stay legal as long as I could.
And then I'll stay illegal and make mone :D :D :D
babu
You can't get more than 10K people to sign up to IV.
And you can't get more than 300 people to sign up for $20 per month.
What makes you think you can convince 20-30K people to move with you?
:)
Best post so far on this thread :D
I will never go back. I'll stay legal as long as I could.
And then I'll stay illegal and make mone :D :D :D
babu
You can't get more than 10K people to sign up to IV.
And you can't get more than 300 people to sign up for $20 per month.
What makes you think you can convince 20-30K people to move with you?
:)
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08-06 12:41 PM
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05-29 08:07 PM
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No. American kids are winning.. None of them are Indians. :)
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Berkeleybee
04-27 11:40 AM
Hi BerkleyBee
I totally understand that reporters may skew facts to their specific needs and know first hand that the EB-3 category is retrogressed across all nationalities. I am one of your members that is not from either background mentioned.
I was responding to a post on this forum (and not the press in general) that implied that this issue affects people from specific ethnic backgrounds, which is false.
I do have a general issue that people seem to forget that.
I applaud all core member efforts, however negative this post seems.
Respectfully
Franklin,
It is good to remind people about the facts every once in a while. :) Especially when they are carried away by the force of their own rhetoric. We always appreciate members doing that -- I just wanted to clarify that IV understands your point perfectly.
best,
Berkeleybee
I totally understand that reporters may skew facts to their specific needs and know first hand that the EB-3 category is retrogressed across all nationalities. I am one of your members that is not from either background mentioned.
I was responding to a post on this forum (and not the press in general) that implied that this issue affects people from specific ethnic backgrounds, which is false.
I do have a general issue that people seem to forget that.
I applaud all core member efforts, however negative this post seems.
Respectfully
Franklin,
It is good to remind people about the facts every once in a while. :) Especially when they are carried away by the force of their own rhetoric. We always appreciate members doing that -- I just wanted to clarify that IV understands your point perfectly.
best,
Berkeleybee
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uma78
11-17 10:11 AM
Hello H1b Guy,
I am sorry for the situation you are in. The employer should be punished. Let me ask you:
1. do you have any email correspondance with the employer asking you pay for h1b fee?
2. if you don't then pose him a question using office email something like "how much is still pending on my h1b fee that i owe you (replace you)". Address this to HR or Payroll or the boss it self. Wait for the reply, and then take copy of it for record purpose.
3. if '2' does not work then wire tapping is way to go:
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/new-jersey/new-jersey-recording-law. As per the law in New Jersy, one party should be notified and if you are recording you conversation, you are the one party and the other do not have to be notified. Are you using voip in the office? if so use wireshark to record the conversation. If not then there are devices available outside for cheap to do it.
I am not a lawyer, please do some more research and then find a way. If you really want to trap these type of guys there are tons of legal ways to do it. Hope, this helps. Take care. All the best.
Uma
I am sorry for the situation you are in. The employer should be punished. Let me ask you:
1. do you have any email correspondance with the employer asking you pay for h1b fee?
2. if you don't then pose him a question using office email something like "how much is still pending on my h1b fee that i owe you (replace you)". Address this to HR or Payroll or the boss it self. Wait for the reply, and then take copy of it for record purpose.
3. if '2' does not work then wire tapping is way to go:
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/new-jersey/new-jersey-recording-law. As per the law in New Jersy, one party should be notified and if you are recording you conversation, you are the one party and the other do not have to be notified. Are you using voip in the office? if so use wireshark to record the conversation. If not then there are devices available outside for cheap to do it.
I am not a lawyer, please do some more research and then find a way. If you really want to trap these type of guys there are tons of legal ways to do it. Hope, this helps. Take care. All the best.
Uma
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yabadaba
06-28 12:51 PM
good...looks like they are taking proactive steps to handle the loadssssss of 485s that will be filed.
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10-08 04:22 PM
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chi_shark
09-26 03:42 PM
Why is llc less risk? i know that the legal paper trail requirements are lower... but i dont know of any other major benefit than ability to share profit and loss disproportionate to ownership stake... which could be a double edged sword too... what risk is covered in llc that is not covered in corp?
in fact i chose corp because it was cheaper.... thats it.
I started an LLC earlier this year. Much easier and less risk with an LLC. It is still early to say whether the company will make it to higher grounds or not. But I sure am trying. I have me and my wife as manager members. No employees at the moment.
Best of luck to you all. GC or no GC, we can still make the entrepreneur dream happen.
in fact i chose corp because it was cheaper.... thats it.
I started an LLC earlier this year. Much easier and less risk with an LLC. It is still early to say whether the company will make it to higher grounds or not. But I sure am trying. I have me and my wife as manager members. No employees at the moment.
Best of luck to you all. GC or no GC, we can still make the entrepreneur dream happen.
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