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  • abqguy
    06-18 02:43 PM
    Let me know when you have the action item for us. Thanks snathan.





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  • immigrant2007
    07-16 12:57 PM
    Good to know you oppose illegal immigration that is actually destroying American life. My solution to the illegal immigration was same and given months back on this forum. Punish employers harshly with fines (50K per incident) plus 5 years of jail time and put the burden of finding out if person is legal ON the employer. Soon institutions like Equifax/Experian/TransUnion will pop up instead of the current one -EVerify.

    You completely missed the point of immigration and outsourcing. They have NOTHING to do with eachother. Even if they paid me in dollars and gave me a cushy job and paid for every of my expense to run a outsourced part of a company in my home country, I will not go because it's not the money that matters, it the quality of life! I don't want to be driving 1 hour to get 5 miles ahead. I don't want to bribe a peon to get my own birth certificate. I don't want people creating a welcome mat for me on the sidewalk - made not out of rose petals but chewed pan spit.

    I like some of your ideas but won't indudge in any dialogue with you unless you update your profile. the idea of punishing employers is not mine. I read it somewhere in one of the posts on this very site, maybe yours only





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  • El_Guapo
    04-13 11:16 AM
    I am new to this community and have been watching some other forums online, but I am glad we have one dedicated for EB immigration. Way to go Immigration Voice!!!

    Now, before anyone jumps at me, I promise to contribute for IV's efforts and donate for the various projects in a couple days.


    The reason I am posting this is because I saw various threads with various ideas to gain visibility and make out cause known to all. I saw thready ranging from writing to senators to sending a 1 cent check everyday to sending a voided check for a big amount. Other notable ideas include sending flowers, calling senators, FOIA campaign, writing to the Obama administration, etc. While I agree that each of these actions contribute small drops to the ocean, I honestly think we should think BIG!!


    I have analyzed EB Immigration considerably and here are my thoughts -

    Anti-Immigrants, especially the ones against EB Immigration feel that we take away their jobs. However our defense against that is there's aren't that many skilled immigrants for certain skill set and hence we fill that void and keep corporate America competitive. However a lot of us argue that we who are waiting in line for our potential Green Cards pay our taxes and aide by the law, etc. All valid arguments. However, that doesn't make us any different than the majority of the 90% workforce that is employed. They all pay taxes too.

    I have seen other ideas being floated around where they said "Buy a house, get a green card." Now, two issues with this - How many of us potential immigrants have 250 grand to invest in a house? I don't and can perhaps pay 5-10% down payment on a house. But if I lose my job, then I will be forced to default too and that doesn't help the economy. Also, there are more than 10 million homes in foreclosure and even hypothetically, let's say we will buy a house on a mortgage at 10% down. There are, say 1 million immigrants in waiting including dependents. And we buy 500,000 homes. That is a small dent in the entire real estate economy. Won't make a significant difference. Secondly, the current mess we are in was caused by the "sub prime" mortgage loans. If you know what "sub prime" means, then you probably know the areas where these houses were purchased. Have you seen the neighborhoods or the areas where these houses are foreclosed? A majority of us won't even drive through there, leave alone buying houses there. So obviously, us buying homes is not going to solve this economic mess. If you still insist, then you perhaps need to take a class on economics 101.

    OK, say why am I saying all this? Well, for one, while its great that we put our brains to work to help solve the economic crisis, since a good economy has a knock on effect on immigration, but we can't come up with ordinary ideas. These are extraordinary times and we need extraordinary ideas. We need to think out of the box. I appreciate the efforts of IV with the FOIA drive, but here's my question with that - Besides knowing how long the wait is going to be to get our GC based on the information from USCIS, what other purpose is the FOIA going to solve? Probably not much. But I do agree that having those numbers helps us in identifying where we need to focus our lobbying efforts. If we know the bottleneck is EB2-EB3 spillover, we can work on that with USCIS.

    Someone mentioned in another thread where we all need to concentrate on one effort rather than be divided in multiple efforts. And I think it was suggested that we focus on visa numbers recapturing. I think its a great idea. However, please be aware that in the context of CIR, EB immigration is a small drop. And hence any lobbying to increase/recapture visa numbers need to be done with the FB immigration. EB and FB together can lobby for the recapture visa numbers project and might achieve considerable success.

    If we as EB immigrants need to make our voice known, we need to take a leaf out of the President's book, from his campaign. He started a grass roots level campaign and look at where that has led him to!! So here is my suggestion for a project that will highlight our cause and lead some of the anti- EB Immigration Aholes to shut up their various holes.

    I am assuming we have around 500K immigrants in waiting. Let's say there are 250K primary applicants. The goal is we try to get an email database of as many potential immigrants we can. Next we start an email campaign highlighting a story of an immigrant family or a news article against immigration or lobbying by anti immigrant groups or lack of visibility in ongoing discussions on CIR. At the bottom of each email, we have a donate button that takes the person to IV's donation page/paypal, whatever it might be. We start with a minimum of $50 and go upwards to $500. The goal is if we have atleast, say 100,000 potential immigrants to contribute a min of $50, then if my calculations are in order, that is about $5 Millions. We might have more depending on how many more people contribute and how much more than the min $50 that people contribute. But the baseline collection would be about $5 Million. OK, so what do we with that money? Well, the biggest skill set for us EB immigrants are our education. We have a minimum of a bachelors degree and have a penchant for being well educated. That is the weakness in the American education system - Education. We say thousands of high school dropouts. Thousands of college drop outs. The Obama administration has clearly said they need to invest in America's future. And hence they have a big ambitious spending on fixing the educational system. I know that as non permanent residents or citizens, we are not allowed to contribute to any politicians. However, we can donate money to the state or to a charity organization. What I suggest is we collect this money and send it to the first lady, Michelle Obama and have her send this to a non profit community project for education on our behalf. This will bring a lot of attention because we as EB immigrants are saying, we want to contribute to better the educational system if given a chance so that the future American generations don't become prey to the 21st century American competitiveness like outsourcing and H Visas and stuff.

    This might seem like a small drop in the ocean, but it is definitely a bright one!! And don't tell me it can't be done. It sure can be done. There was someone who already did this at the grassroots level, and his name is Barack Obama!!!

    I am willing to talk to the IV Core team to discuss if needed.





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  • tonyHK12
    10-28 09:34 AM
    Yes... benchmarking is good (in many things as you suggest quality, corruption, infrastructure etc.)... but absolutely not in everything as you suggest, some things just aren't comparable given some micro-economic conditions. Further, doing so would also encourage the mindset of aping the developed countries in every department. Remember the India that we see has gone through hundreds of social and economic cycles over thousands of years. It is not a nation that came to being a few hundred years ago and was a developed country (in current terms) many times in the past.

    If one learns history then one also learns not to just take a slice of it for generalization! A holistic view of what happened in the past globally and our current state makes one realize the hidden riches and clear shortcomings in any nation. One need not level out it's hidden riches to clear the shortcomings !

    Yes I agree, our history and way of working is also different maybe better/worse, but defenitely way more experience! I don't think I would want to change any thing about family , friend relations and the way we help each other. Even some of the ways we think, has a lot of advantages.
    we always manage to get things done. There are a lot of unseen riches that are not realized completely.
    we should defenitely avoid aping the west, but pick the good stuff out of it.
    being open minded and having freedom of expression is good up to a certain point!

    India is India only... never compare it to US, and I do not think there is glamour attached to US green card, People who have the mind set of freedom and education and knowledge with a better quality of life still migrate to USA. There is no doubt about it India's economic grwoth comparing to US is really nothing.
    There is freedom and education even in India, I agree infrastructure needs improvement.
    India is 3rd in the world if you account for purchasing power parity. Don't trash India so soon. have you looked at how people lived in the US 40-50 years back? While I agree Indian IT should do more quality work and treat employees fairly. He no longer works with Infy, he just made generic comments.

    US economy is down and receission is meant to happen every 5 years in US some times to recover and job creation it takes longer if you read the US history and economics you will understand better. This time the open global media made it a big issue, that is about it. When the economy improves and things are better, again your so called glamour comes back. .
    This time is different, I do work in the financial industry.
    I would hate to say this - but was every recovery in the last 2 decades mostly due to a bubble that was created - dot-com, low interest, housing?
    There are not many bubbles left to create, and the debt was never this high.

    The growth of India should be more compared to Canada, that has a conservative financial system with lot of regulation. AKA no vegas.



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  • NIW
    02-12 09:36 PM
    Hey guys!
    I just opened this thread casually and found so many helpful messages to a single problem. I am so glad to know that there are so many good people around to help their fellow beings. I sincerely appreciate each and everyone who took time to help in someway.

    We often complain for petty things, I guess we should equally encourage the good deeds of other people.

    Keep up the good work.

    An alien with work permit
    (I still cann't get the alien word, I always thought we are all humans)





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  • waiting4gc
    07-02 03:39 PM
    About 8K, filed initially in EB2RIR, then in perm.



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  • qtoask
    07-06 03:43 PM
    Members: can you request IV to endorse this ... more than 100 people are waiting to get hear 'YES' from core...


    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6025


    thank you





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  • salcom3
    07-13 07:59 PM
    I totally agree with you akgind.
    Here is my daughter's case:
    1994 she was 8 years old when we brought her to USA
    2002 asylum case was denied, we had to go back to our country (we didn't stay illegaly)
    2002 after one month we came back, with H-1 visa, daughter with H-4
    2003 I applied for LC
    2006 My daughter turned 21 - She had to change status to F-1 (of course college fees were triple). She is out of LC process because of her age.
    2007 LC approved, she is still F-1 and paying a lot of money in tuition.

    I mean, these kids like my daughter (and I am sure there are thousands like her), deserve a break too. If the DREAM ACT is going to benefit illegal persons, it should also benefit children that have waited for their parents' LC process for long years only to see their hopes destroyed.



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  • rsrikant
    08-10 10:20 AM
    instead of attacking some one who applied for LS, i suggest it is advisable to direct the anger towards DOL or USCIS.. whoever is responsible.

    LC substitution is legal and probably that's why many ppl did it. why shud we blame them. we shud blame the law. and good that its been eliminated now..

    i don't think we need to segregate those who applied using LS. May be most of us could have used it if we had not applied labour directly and knew that some LS is available for no price with old PD...





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  • tinku01
    02-12 12:09 PM
    Sometimes in your life you make bad decisions. It happened unfortunately, because my PD is June 2004 EB2 and when dates became current last year, I thought it needs to move just 3 months to have my date current and as per DOS release there were only 3400 visas in EB2 for 2004.
    Unluckily I chose for CP instead of 485 and now lying in a dark well.

    Anyway please don't sympathize, I'll certainly come out of this situation very soon.



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  • fightretro
    04-01 06:21 PM
    Sent fax # 10 and 11





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  • gc_on_demand
    06-12 09:39 AM
    Thursday 06/12/2008 - 11:00 AM

    2237 Rayburn House Office Building

    Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law

    Hearing on the Need for Green Cards for Highly Skilled Workers



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  • new2gc
    06-01 11:16 AM
    Voted Aye!





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  • jsb
    01-05 12:59 PM
    I think as a next step I will contact my Congressman after the Feb dates are released and we are still current. Do you know if it makes more sense to approach Congressman or Senator for this ? Also should I approach only 1 rep like 1 Congressman or approach both my district congressman and 2 state senators ?
    We are even more screwed because since our dates are current we can not even get 2 Yr EAD or 3 yr H1 extension but you have to renew both annually.
    Please share your experiences.

    Getting help from a Congressman may or may not help. The only difference is that processing center is obligated to reply within a specified limit. Most likely, if dates are outside advertised processing dates, they will send standard reply that your case is pending, or if by that time there is a retrogression (and your PD is not current any more), they will simply say that your PD is not current (they also attach a copy of latest bulletin). Sometimes they wait until retrogression happens, so that they can provide a convenient reply. That's what happened on Ombudsman's intervention in my case.



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  • saurav_4096
    01-04 03:07 PM
    Let me acknowledge..This thread made me easily come out of holiday blues. Above thats its friday...!!!!

    My take on this situation....ask your freind to apply for concurent H1b's..it works out well with concurent wives...!!!!:):):) He can bring one wife on each visa..!!!!


    May be he can apply for blanket H4...





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  • manand24
    07-31 12:09 PM
    Still waiting for my receipts numbers from USCIS. July 2nd filer.



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  • SkilledWorker4GC
    07-08 04:32 PM
    I dont think we could expect such thing from our community as we are born selfish and scared of things. Everone is just hoping that some miracle will happen and everyone will get their GCs. Or else people are happy with EAD/h1b renewals.We really lack the kind of leadership and atitude we had before independece both at home in india and here.I think people have made immigration problems as part of the many problems they have in their lives.

    Leave alone ABCDs, Vinodh Khosla ka Ghosla, or Jindals or all the big shots ATA or TANA.
    For a moment - lets look at our own community that is affected.

    For all those who are not affected - this may seem a non issue except for universities, hospitals, and companies like MSFT etc.. where competition and talent is of high importance and where talent cannot be compromised and this mess is affecting them - it is OONLY these people who will support us and that too, they press more on h1b rather than green cards because they want man power and dont mind if it is h1b or GC. For an avg desi or any immigrant who is looking for a h1b, he has NO clue about this mess and will be glad to embrace the H1b quota increase and OPT extensions as everyone think GC is not an issue these days.

    For a moment - look at the community that is affected - people like us. WE have to be on top of this. The backlogs seem to be close to a million and look at the number of people trying to do something about the situation. Anti immigrants paint us in bad light, media confuses our issues and writes rubbish, Lou Dobbs makes baseless comments and everyone in our community does nothing but trying to track EAD etc... A handful of people make phone calls, a handful send letters, a handful help IV. Others just sit and watch and pretend they don't know anything. When we make request to join state chapters very few join. Out of that very few actively participate in activities. When IIV asks people to enter a correct profile - very few do it.

    Things will improve ONLY of the entire community stands up on their own without expecting others to do something for them





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  • vinabath
    05-15 10:46 AM
    I dont think Ron Hira has ever worked in IT side or on the HR side. Whats wrong if people for pursue for Masters or Phd for GC?. This Guy does not have any idea about the value this techs bring.

    He is in the wrong position. He should never be in Public Policy board.





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  • jonty_11
    07-31 11:01 AM
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5814
    Thx a Lot...





    ashshef
    11-02 03:54 PM
    Hydboy, you make a good point. Does anyone know if this is how USCIS would do a Qtrly Spillover if they do it ? And do they have to make the EB2-I and EB2-C dates the same before they do a spill over like they do it for the yearly?

    The quarterly spillover is still a myth untill we see it happen one time. I don't recall a big movement in any quarter in the last few years.....except the last quarter of the year when they have done the annual spillover.
    That said....I would obviously love to see a quarterly spillover as I think it might make my date current a few months earlier.





    TomPlate
    07-19 03:32 PM
    Tell Embassy that you need to file I485, so they will an earlier appointment.



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