tooclose
08-11 10:53 AM
If you are in March first week PD, you will be current from September 1st 2010.
I would do the following.
I will open a SR on the first working day of the September (As you have already done this and can not do one more SR in the next 45 days)
Will taken an infopass around 10th of September (Just waiting to see whether the date retrogress or not. If the date stays as it is for October 2010 i don't go to infopass otherwise i will go to infopass around mid of September to find out more details)
Thanks nrk for your thoughts and advice. Good luck !!!
I would do the following.
I will open a SR on the first working day of the September (As you have already done this and can not do one more SR in the next 45 days)
Will taken an infopass around 10th of September (Just waiting to see whether the date retrogress or not. If the date stays as it is for October 2010 i don't go to infopass otherwise i will go to infopass around mid of September to find out more details)
Thanks nrk for your thoughts and advice. Good luck !!!
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espoir
07-09 12:37 PM
follow instructions on first post of this thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191
Can some one please tell how and where to sent? Is there any website where I can order online? I wanna do it right away :rolleyes:
Can some one please tell how and where to sent? Is there any website where I can order online? I wanna do it right away :rolleyes:
pappu
04-25 06:38 PM
Tuesday 05/01/2007 - 3:00 PM
2237 Rayburn House Office Building
Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
Hearing on An Examination of Point Systems as a Method for Selecting Immigrants
By Direction of the Chairman
2237 Rayburn House Office Building
Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
Hearing on An Examination of Point Systems as a Method for Selecting Immigrants
By Direction of the Chairman
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desi3933
06-25 10:24 AM
Must an H-1B alien be working at all times?
As long as the employer/employee relationship exists, an H-1B alien is still in status. An H-1B alien may work in full or part-time employment and remain in status. An H-1B alien may also be on vacation, sick/maternity/paternity leave, on strike, or otherwise inactive without affecting his or her status.
http://www.nrilinks.com/Immigration/VisaTypes/h1bfaq.htm#q8
>> Must an H-1B alien be working at all times?
No, but he must be an employee. H-1 employee can avail vacation, sick days off, unpaid vacation days as are available to ALL OTHER employees. Employer needs to document such policies. There are complex issues involved here.
Like you said in post As long as the employer/employee relationship exists this is the key part. How to prove employee relation - mostly by pay stubs and employment letter. Also, I-9 Form date determines when employee really reported to start the employment.
Not a legal advice
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desi3933 at gmail.com
As long as the employer/employee relationship exists, an H-1B alien is still in status. An H-1B alien may work in full or part-time employment and remain in status. An H-1B alien may also be on vacation, sick/maternity/paternity leave, on strike, or otherwise inactive without affecting his or her status.
http://www.nrilinks.com/Immigration/VisaTypes/h1bfaq.htm#q8
>> Must an H-1B alien be working at all times?
No, but he must be an employee. H-1 employee can avail vacation, sick days off, unpaid vacation days as are available to ALL OTHER employees. Employer needs to document such policies. There are complex issues involved here.
Like you said in post As long as the employer/employee relationship exists this is the key part. How to prove employee relation - mostly by pay stubs and employment letter. Also, I-9 Form date determines when employee really reported to start the employment.
Not a legal advice
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desi3933 at gmail.com
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pd_recapturing
06-28 01:49 PM
You should get your EAD within 3 months of your application provided your I485 is already applied or applied along with EAD; EAD is independent of your I-140 approval.
This is wrong. EAD can be issued when both of the following conditions MUST meet:
I140 has been approved
I485 application is 180 days old
This is wrong. EAD can be issued when both of the following conditions MUST meet:
I140 has been approved
I485 application is 180 days old
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bestofall
06-25 03:25 PM
Guru s
I have a question on my wife' AP renewal
My wife would like travel to India and come back in November or Dec 2008.she would like to leave on August Last week
Any way we would like appy for renewal of AP , the current which expires on Oct 30 2008.
Let us say if we apply for AP Renewal July 2- or July 3 , the new AP may come before her Journey date Augut 2008 , OR It may not come before her Journey date Augut 2008 .
Since her current AP expires on Oct 30 2008 , Does she need to come back to USA before Oct 30 2008 ? or can we mail extended AP to India , if she is travelling back after Oct 30 in November or December
please advise us , accordingly we will make travel plans
1. ..If we can mail the her New Advance Parole document to India.
2. Can she Leave the country while her AP in Process
I have a question on my wife' AP renewal
My wife would like travel to India and come back in November or Dec 2008.she would like to leave on August Last week
Any way we would like appy for renewal of AP , the current which expires on Oct 30 2008.
Let us say if we apply for AP Renewal July 2- or July 3 , the new AP may come before her Journey date Augut 2008 , OR It may not come before her Journey date Augut 2008 .
Since her current AP expires on Oct 30 2008 , Does she need to come back to USA before Oct 30 2008 ? or can we mail extended AP to India , if she is travelling back after Oct 30 in November or December
please advise us , accordingly we will make travel plans
1. ..If we can mail the her New Advance Parole document to India.
2. Can she Leave the country while her AP in Process
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walking_dude
12-12 10:38 AM
I did create a poll to make a guesstimate of how many are ready to march in Detroit (when the weather was much better !).
Guess what only 14 members showed interest ! 14 members strolling down Detroit riverfront in freezing sub-zero temperatures - do you call it a rally?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15456
When we conducted D.C. rally, there were roughly 1500 people attended. Each member has his/her own reason for not attending the rally.
The reasons could be, taking a day off from work or to far from their place etc..,
As a first step……..:)
Why don’t we plan for rally on the same day, same time at various major cities? This would enable members to attend in their respective cities.
We knew that, we are 25K+ members strong and can hold rallies/protests, where we have (major cities) at least 100+ members.
We must invite media and local US leader’s for rally and show our strength and request them to work towards the Green Cards.
Why don’t we plan for a rally during the this Christmas season?
Guess what only 14 members showed interest ! 14 members strolling down Detroit riverfront in freezing sub-zero temperatures - do you call it a rally?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15456
When we conducted D.C. rally, there were roughly 1500 people attended. Each member has his/her own reason for not attending the rally.
The reasons could be, taking a day off from work or to far from their place etc..,
As a first step……..:)
Why don’t we plan for rally on the same day, same time at various major cities? This would enable members to attend in their respective cities.
We knew that, we are 25K+ members strong and can hold rallies/protests, where we have (major cities) at least 100+ members.
We must invite media and local US leader’s for rally and show our strength and request them to work towards the Green Cards.
Why don’t we plan for a rally during the this Christmas season?
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pappu
10-16 08:07 AM
H1b humane-hear my story..it cannot be as inhuman as it can be..(i have written the story in one of the forums before also..)
My PD-Oct 2001..Eb3..My wife RIR-almost making it thru I140when all hell broke loose in our lives...my wife was pregnant and because of stupid gynaecologist..she ended up in hospital with complicated premature preganancy..guess what..as if it was not bad enough..her company got acquired just when she was admitted in hospital...imagine wondering about health insurance when she was kept to bed rest with no mobility allowed..we filed for insurance by mistake..which said that 20% in patient.....we were so shaken that even human resource did not advise us..guess what..baby was born..and it was surmised that baby will have long stay in hosiptal...2-3 months(eventually it was 4 months!)..somwhere around the first month..I realized that her insurance..will rip me off..I called right at the end of the first month..and tried several times to put my wife and baby on my insurance so that i don't end up paying 20%..it was lot of efforts until I found some desi in Blue cross insurance who put the whole family from the first initial month..when normally people get the policy for the following month at that time.
one down --and then another came..my wife was called to her office from hospital saying that..since there was lot of work in her office..she could come for some days..guess what..she went back..thinking..she could finish work and then take extended leave....guess what..she was laid off..and with baby in hospital..and lay off..plus a rush to change her status to H4 visa..imagine the workload.....finally got her status changed..to h4 visa..with GC and labor in trash...
I was so disgusted..that I started writing to Governor Shwarzenegger' office..who put me with Senator Diane Fienstein..and of course labor secretory Chao..after all the correspondings..all I got was my D number listed from Dallas..their sympathies...ALL I WROTE to them..Hey I want to change jobs because in those days I was commuting between LA to San Diego..where my baby was hospitalized...I wanted to be with my baby..and not work..but it was not possible..if I did..then I could get out of status...I even wrote to Department of Homeland security...and got no reply...they don't care..I ahve to be illegal to get sympathies..I guess!
Situation was bad..finally baby was out of hospital and I weathered all with help of Almighty...and now I am so disgusted with system..that I am moving to vancouver...
But I have another pleasant surprise..my boss wants me to work from vancouver and visit office once in a month...I don't know...whether it is possible...stay in vancouver and visit LA for 2 weeks and then go back and still maintain H1 status..
what do you say..after all the stress!
DB
Sorry to hear your situation. There is you and several other members who I have had a chance to speak to, are going through a tough time in life (both on personal and professional fronts) due to not having a greencard. Such experiences are my motivation to work as a volunteer and core member for IV and do something to solve problems faced by several thousands of people like me. IV is currently the only organization in USA working for the cause of legal high skilled immigrants. This IV forum has brought all of us together on one platform where we can share our views and pain. Members have come up with ideas and helped this community in any way they could. Some members decided to join this effort as core members and pledged more time and effort in order to bring relief to all of us. It is not an easy job. There is nobody else to work on the issues we face. You have yourself seen how the govt. and lawmakers responded to you and still did not do anything when you tried yourself as an individual. When we try to raise such issues collectively as IV, lawmakers do hear us. With greater membership numbers and resources we can certainly do much more to influence them and get the laws changed. Members pls. help us increase our membership and funding so that we can all collectively bring about a change and provide relief to everyone in our community. desibechara, If you have decided to move to Canada, good luck to you and your family. Do keep in touch with this forum. Hope we all members of IV can collectively work soon enough to get something done for ourselves to end our miseries.
My PD-Oct 2001..Eb3..My wife RIR-almost making it thru I140when all hell broke loose in our lives...my wife was pregnant and because of stupid gynaecologist..she ended up in hospital with complicated premature preganancy..guess what..as if it was not bad enough..her company got acquired just when she was admitted in hospital...imagine wondering about health insurance when she was kept to bed rest with no mobility allowed..we filed for insurance by mistake..which said that 20% in patient.....we were so shaken that even human resource did not advise us..guess what..baby was born..and it was surmised that baby will have long stay in hosiptal...2-3 months(eventually it was 4 months!)..somwhere around the first month..I realized that her insurance..will rip me off..I called right at the end of the first month..and tried several times to put my wife and baby on my insurance so that i don't end up paying 20%..it was lot of efforts until I found some desi in Blue cross insurance who put the whole family from the first initial month..when normally people get the policy for the following month at that time.
one down --and then another came..my wife was called to her office from hospital saying that..since there was lot of work in her office..she could come for some days..guess what..she went back..thinking..she could finish work and then take extended leave....guess what..she was laid off..and with baby in hospital..and lay off..plus a rush to change her status to H4 visa..imagine the workload.....finally got her status changed..to h4 visa..with GC and labor in trash...
I was so disgusted..that I started writing to Governor Shwarzenegger' office..who put me with Senator Diane Fienstein..and of course labor secretory Chao..after all the correspondings..all I got was my D number listed from Dallas..their sympathies...ALL I WROTE to them..Hey I want to change jobs because in those days I was commuting between LA to San Diego..where my baby was hospitalized...I wanted to be with my baby..and not work..but it was not possible..if I did..then I could get out of status...I even wrote to Department of Homeland security...and got no reply...they don't care..I ahve to be illegal to get sympathies..I guess!
Situation was bad..finally baby was out of hospital and I weathered all with help of Almighty...and now I am so disgusted with system..that I am moving to vancouver...
But I have another pleasant surprise..my boss wants me to work from vancouver and visit office once in a month...I don't know...whether it is possible...stay in vancouver and visit LA for 2 weeks and then go back and still maintain H1 status..
what do you say..after all the stress!
DB
Sorry to hear your situation. There is you and several other members who I have had a chance to speak to, are going through a tough time in life (both on personal and professional fronts) due to not having a greencard. Such experiences are my motivation to work as a volunteer and core member for IV and do something to solve problems faced by several thousands of people like me. IV is currently the only organization in USA working for the cause of legal high skilled immigrants. This IV forum has brought all of us together on one platform where we can share our views and pain. Members have come up with ideas and helped this community in any way they could. Some members decided to join this effort as core members and pledged more time and effort in order to bring relief to all of us. It is not an easy job. There is nobody else to work on the issues we face. You have yourself seen how the govt. and lawmakers responded to you and still did not do anything when you tried yourself as an individual. When we try to raise such issues collectively as IV, lawmakers do hear us. With greater membership numbers and resources we can certainly do much more to influence them and get the laws changed. Members pls. help us increase our membership and funding so that we can all collectively bring about a change and provide relief to everyone in our community. desibechara, If you have decided to move to Canada, good luck to you and your family. Do keep in touch with this forum. Hope we all members of IV can collectively work soon enough to get something done for ourselves to end our miseries.
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thankgod
06-03 12:15 PM
There are lot of things I understand about america. One of them is america has lot of non-senses among many sensible things.
Then why do you want to stay here. Just move out.
Then why do you want to stay here. Just move out.
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gcisadawg
03-26 03:12 PM
let us start May 2009 predictions.
EB3-I 2003 October
Thanks for taking care of my PD.
My prediction: EB3-I would move to NOV 20th 2001
Also, my predictions for EB3-I for next several years..
Oct 2009--> Jan 1st 2002
Oct 2010--> June 1st 2002
Oct 2011--> Oct 15th 2002
Oct 2012--> Dec 20th 2002
Oct 2013--> April 15th 2003
Oct 2014--> July 1st 2003
Oct 2015--> Oct 15th 2003
There are about 19K to 22K EB3-I I-485 pending as of now with PD Oct 2003 or earlier.. The above is the realistic prediction based on about 3000 EB3-I GC/year.
Regards,
GCisadawg
EB3-I 2003 October
Thanks for taking care of my PD.
My prediction: EB3-I would move to NOV 20th 2001
Also, my predictions for EB3-I for next several years..
Oct 2009--> Jan 1st 2002
Oct 2010--> June 1st 2002
Oct 2011--> Oct 15th 2002
Oct 2012--> Dec 20th 2002
Oct 2013--> April 15th 2003
Oct 2014--> July 1st 2003
Oct 2015--> Oct 15th 2003
There are about 19K to 22K EB3-I I-485 pending as of now with PD Oct 2003 or earlier.. The above is the realistic prediction based on about 3000 EB3-I GC/year.
Regards,
GCisadawg
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bsbawa10
01-14 11:48 AM
This process is a mockery of the PD cutoff dates, but that's how it works. If you sent your case on June 28, 07, with July 2, 07 as the printed Receive Data on your receipt, but the case where it finally rested, was entered in their database on Oct. 28, '07 (with a Notice Date soon thereafter), you case will not be looked at, no matter what the PD cutoff date is, unless all cases received before Oct. 28, '07 have been reviewed.
Exactly, it is a mockery, they are playing with carrers, time and our money on H1 extenstions , EADs and Advance paroles.
Exactly, it is a mockery, they are playing with carrers, time and our money on H1 extenstions , EADs and Advance paroles.
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mallu
09-06 10:04 PM
That IO must be a knucklehead who just hates "Specific type of people" or someone who does know the f** he is doing. I have entered using AP at Boston. San fran, Seattle and never had problems. Only once they asked me for EAD/a valid H1 petition and that was just a question.
Amen. There might be some Anti-immigrant nut cases among them.
Amen. There might be some Anti-immigrant nut cases among them.
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gc28262
02-15 07:01 PM
Folks,
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
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When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, 1)if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
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2) Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-).
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3) I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system,
4) and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
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1. If you are in IT field, you don't even have a grasp of software development lifecycle and the part QA plays in it. A good QA cycle is essential for a good quality product. It is your ignorance about software development cycle that makes you say good QA guys are not an asset for a good product and they are not smart as developers.
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
3. All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
.................................................. ....................................
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When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, 1)if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
..........................................
2) Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-).
.........................................
3) I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system,
4) and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
.................................................. ..............................................
.................................................. .............................................
1. If you are in IT field, you don't even have a grasp of software development lifecycle and the part QA plays in it. A good QA cycle is essential for a good quality product. It is your ignorance about software development cycle that makes you say good QA guys are not an asset for a good product and they are not smart as developers.
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
3. All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
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kumar1
02-01 01:26 PM
Thank you. I agree with you 100%.
Did you or someone you know experience such questions at POE for an advanced parole? Or are you just posing a hypothetical?
I have recently re-entered on AP and not a single question was asked. Not only that, I was not fingerprinted or photographed at the counter like a visa holder would be. I was taken to the back office where an agent entered information from my AP into the computer, stamped the AP and gave it back to me. No questions asked. Period. This was at the JFK airport in NY.
Parole is meant to grant entry to resume adjustment of status. Parole is not subject to employment, it is subject to a pending I-485.
If this is a hypothetical from you, then please shake these imaginations and live in peace and enjoy EAD and AP.
Too much thinking and too much analysis has caused this community to revert back to H1 lifestyle and they are not using EAD and AP - ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS why we were all so happy due to 485 filing.
What is the point of having an early 485 filed, if you are not going to use EAD and AP and be at mercy of consulates for restamping and be at mercy of employers who will need to sponsor you to hire you?
Did you or someone you know experience such questions at POE for an advanced parole? Or are you just posing a hypothetical?
I have recently re-entered on AP and not a single question was asked. Not only that, I was not fingerprinted or photographed at the counter like a visa holder would be. I was taken to the back office where an agent entered information from my AP into the computer, stamped the AP and gave it back to me. No questions asked. Period. This was at the JFK airport in NY.
Parole is meant to grant entry to resume adjustment of status. Parole is not subject to employment, it is subject to a pending I-485.
If this is a hypothetical from you, then please shake these imaginations and live in peace and enjoy EAD and AP.
Too much thinking and too much analysis has caused this community to revert back to H1 lifestyle and they are not using EAD and AP - ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS why we were all so happy due to 485 filing.
What is the point of having an early 485 filed, if you are not going to use EAD and AP and be at mercy of consulates for restamping and be at mercy of employers who will need to sponsor you to hire you?
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ArkBird
03-17 04:05 PM
Going by his language I am pretty sure this is the same Matt The "Clown" we had here posting as German sometime back...
Might be some anti...trying to create/divide people here.
Might be some anti...trying to create/divide people here.
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krishmunn
05-10 12:53 PM
Looks like you are also a candidate with three year bachelors degree and a namesake masters from US univ that you bought and which put you in EB2.
Legit EB2 = GRE (good Score) + Toefl (good score) + Fulltime MS/MBA + Job in forture 500
I am not sure what a job in "forture 500" means :) but there are tonns of people, with no US degree, working for "fortune" 100 companies like MS, GE etc .
Further to that, many reputed US university, including many of the state schools, offer Part time Masters course which per you is not legit.
As I said earlier, I challenge you -- say in black and white whether a part time or online MBA from a school like University of Massachusetts or University of Nebraska is legit or not.
Let's see if you have the guts
Not legit EB2
1. 3 year degree from India + initial application in EB3 that is later converted into eb2 by buying a masters from some shady roadside univ in the US.
So you mean that US Accredition agencies grant accreditation to "shady roadside University" . Why don't you complain to the authorities ? Or are you scared that your lies will take you to court ?
2. bachelors + 5 years experience from some software company in hyderabad, as most people from there have at least 10 years software exerience even if they graduated 4 years ago.
Why don't you point to specific cases .
I am sure you fall in one of the two later categories.
I do not fall in either of thse categories but I know for sure that you have failed to get ANY education after wasting truckload of your parent's money in a Tier 3 university.
Legit EB2 = GRE (good Score) + Toefl (good score) + Fulltime MS/MBA + Job in forture 500
I am not sure what a job in "forture 500" means :) but there are tonns of people, with no US degree, working for "fortune" 100 companies like MS, GE etc .
Further to that, many reputed US university, including many of the state schools, offer Part time Masters course which per you is not legit.
As I said earlier, I challenge you -- say in black and white whether a part time or online MBA from a school like University of Massachusetts or University of Nebraska is legit or not.
Let's see if you have the guts
Not legit EB2
1. 3 year degree from India + initial application in EB3 that is later converted into eb2 by buying a masters from some shady roadside univ in the US.
So you mean that US Accredition agencies grant accreditation to "shady roadside University" . Why don't you complain to the authorities ? Or are you scared that your lies will take you to court ?
2. bachelors + 5 years experience from some software company in hyderabad, as most people from there have at least 10 years software exerience even if they graduated 4 years ago.
Why don't you point to specific cases .
I am sure you fall in one of the two later categories.
I do not fall in either of thse categories but I know for sure that you have failed to get ANY education after wasting truckload of your parent's money in a Tier 3 university.
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sc3
11-17 07:00 PM
My god! Check this out!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/16/MNSL145QF5.DTL
What do you think about this? Is this something related to this discussion?
I pity your sense of judgment to relate such a tragic event with blood sucking employers and employees (who are over their parasitic dependence on the afore mentioned employer).
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/16/MNSL145QF5.DTL
What do you think about this? Is this something related to this discussion?
I pity your sense of judgment to relate such a tragic event with blood sucking employers and employees (who are over their parasitic dependence on the afore mentioned employer).
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best_mode
07-20 05:17 PM
My interpretation: the vote was not on Cornyn's amendment; in response to a Point of Order raised, there was a motion to waive the Budget Act for Cornyn's amendment (the Budget Act requires 60 "Yes" votes to bring to the floor amendments to appropriation bills); if 60 senators had voted "Yes" (and agreed to waive the Budget Act requirement for Cornyn's amendment), then a vote on the actual amendment would only have required a simple majority. But because only 55 voted "Yes", the amendment failed to obtain the waiver; it was out of order because it did not qualify as an amendment to this bill.
Because 40 Dems voted no on the waiver does not mean they are opposed to the amendment; they just did not want to vote on this amendment on this bill.
Because 40 Dems voted no on the waiver does not mean they are opposed to the amendment; they just did not want to vote on this amendment on this bill.
h1techSlave
03-17 02:25 PM
I have listened to a couple of speaches by Bernake in NPR. Basically that guy is completely in the blank on how to handle the economy. He simply says, we are in this mess, because the lenders were very lenient. Fed measures such as interest rate cut and pumping money into the banking system is causing the dollar to fall thus further weakening the economy.
I say, we all write to Bernake that some 10, 000 immigrants will buy homes if we all get a GC. 10, 000 may or may not buy a home, but let us just polish the numbers a little bit. 10,000 * 300,000 (average home price) = 1 million billion dollars . Actually the total figure is 3 billion $$; enough to give a massive jolt to the sagging economy. I think we should also write to Wall Street journal and all major news paper organizations about this.
In America, people gets recognized when they offers a solution for a problem faced by the country. Whiners are (who write to Bush or Senators) do not get noticed nor are respected.
I say, we all write to Bernake that some 10, 000 immigrants will buy homes if we all get a GC. 10, 000 may or may not buy a home, but let us just polish the numbers a little bit. 10,000 * 300,000 (average home price) = 1 million billion dollars . Actually the total figure is 3 billion $$; enough to give a massive jolt to the sagging economy. I think we should also write to Wall Street journal and all major news paper organizations about this.
In America, people gets recognized when they offers a solution for a problem faced by the country. Whiners are (who write to Bush or Senators) do not get noticed nor are respected.
ggyro
07-20 05:59 PM
I believe best mode's analysis is correct based on the following from the daily dairy
"By 55 yeas to 40 nays .. Senate rejected the motion to waive ...with respect to Cornyn Amendment No. 2339 (to Amendment No. 2327), to provide interim relief for .... Subsequently, the point of order that the amendment, was not germane, was sustained, and the amendment thus fell. "
My interpretation: the vote was not on Cornyn's amendment; ...; it was out of order because it did not qualify as an amendment to this bill.
Because 40 Dems voted no on the waiver does not mean they are opposed to the amendment; they just did not want to vote on this amendment on this bill.
"By 55 yeas to 40 nays .. Senate rejected the motion to waive ...with respect to Cornyn Amendment No. 2339 (to Amendment No. 2327), to provide interim relief for .... Subsequently, the point of order that the amendment, was not germane, was sustained, and the amendment thus fell. "
My interpretation: the vote was not on Cornyn's amendment; ...; it was out of order because it did not qualify as an amendment to this bill.
Because 40 Dems voted no on the waiver does not mean they are opposed to the amendment; they just did not want to vote on this amendment on this bill.
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